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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:39:00 -
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Here's hoping you guys can monetize this. I totally use this app multiple times per day.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:54:00 -
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 Originally by: ChrisIsherwood
Have you explored the obvious marketing opportunity????
Hi, I would like to inform you that this is a "**** Move". Don't do that.
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Posted - 2010.10.05 01:02:00 -
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Ok, I've given this some time to stew, and it seems to me:
- I haven't seen a feature update from Capsuleer in a long time. I'm sad to hear that they've put so much effort (6 hrs/day?!) into Capsuleer, and that the new features will never see the light of day. I would have been more than happy to pay for an update, or even pay per feature with in game purchases.
- It doesn't seem like the Capsuleer guys wanted a pay for app. It seems like they wanted to develop an app for CCP, and either become de facto CCP employees or have CCP buy the app off them. It seems an awkward way to go about it.
And ultimately, I think Capsuleer has a better (more familiar) UI, but iClone has come a *long* ways.
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Posted - 2010.10.05 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Roc Wieler
CCP was gracious enough to fly Chris and Marcus to Iceland for Fanfest, to discuss business opportunities between CCP and Capsuleer. CCP expressed their genuine excitement and interest in working with Marcus and Chris in some capacity, and committed to internal research to see what could be done to accommodate a business relationship.
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A subscription based platform for full API functionality was proposed to CCP to monetize Capsuleer, while keeping limited API features free for all users.
This reads to me like the Capsuleer devs asked CCP for tiered/subscription based API access for devs with a business relationship with CCP. This would imply that some apps/developers had preferential treatment from CCP and had access to more/better data than everyone else with free apps. Roc, can you clarify this a bit?
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Posted - 2010.10.06 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: ToJoBo
I think the whole thing is either:
1. Smoke and mirrors by the Capsuleer team (doubtful, but something is strange)
2. CCP acting as a bully and the Capsuleer team not having an IP lawyer on retainer (likely)
3. The use not being understood on a technical level (more likely with the end user than CCP or Capsuleer)
4. Some infringement that may exist in the architecture of Capsuleer specifically. Bundling a CCP-provided DB with the app that may have certain licenses, for example. (very likely)
5. The use of trademarks owned by CCP that may lead a reasonable consumer to believe Capsuleer is a CCP product (good claim here if CCP wanted to pursue it.)
I mostly agree but:
1. I don't know why they would do this unless they're trying to pull some sort of 'power play'. I may be uncharitable, but I don't see that happening either.
2. This is very unlikely, given that the Capsuleer devs are the ones chasing down CCP devs trying to get a response. They even specifically stated that CCP simply isn't moving.
3. I don't see why *me* understanding anything would cause them to pull the app? Can you elaborate a bit on that?
4. I don't see why it's likely that CCP gave them any CCP owned code?
5. It's probably the fear of this which is keeping them from monetizing it IMO.
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